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NEW Camping Reviews Wanted

We hope everyone is having a wonderful summer.

Do you have a favorite place to camp? How was the summer camp you went to?

We would appreciate your camping reviews so we can share them with our scouting family. Please send your brief comments to Tony Roux, District Camping Chairman, at


NEW Apache Facebook page

Apache District now has a facebook page. We hope you join us.

MCC Apache District Facebook


Apache Twitter Account

Stay up to date with important news from Apache District and elsewhere in the scouting community. Like our Facebook page, and be sure to follow us on twitter @ApacheDistrict


NEW Outdoor Leader Skills

Starting on Saturday morning, November 12, 2016, and continuing until Sunday afternoon, November 13, 2016, Outdoor Leader Skills for Webelos Leaders and Boy Scout Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills will be offered at Belk Scout Camp. See


Outdoor Leader Skills for Webelos Leaders is an opportunity to take part in an enjoyable outdoor learning experience and discover what the outing in Webelos Scouting is all about! This course is for all adults connected with the Cub Scout program: Webelos leaders, assistant Webelos leaders, future Webelos leaders, parents of a Cub or Webelos Scout, Cubmasters, committee members, den leaders. It is required for Webelos leaders to earn the Webelos Den Leader Award.


Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills is required for Scoutmasters and Assistant Scoutmasters, and Venturing Crew Leaders whose Crews have Outdoor Programs, to receive the Trained Patch, and to attend Wood Badge.

Please register on-line by Wednesday, November 9, 2016 5PM and pay your participation fee of $35. Included with the flyer below is a map to the location, gear list, and any other information you will need to join us — and please "pass the word" to other Scout leaders in your Unit.

Flyer link:


NEW Does your unit need to borrow tools?

Cub Scout Packs, Boy Scout Troops, and Venturing Crews are invited to borrow tools by the week at 3% of the retail cost of the tool for their service projects, including Eagle Scout Leadership Projects and Hornaday Conservation Award Projects, from Charlotte Community ToolBank. The ToolBank is a non-profit agency serving other agencies with tools and special event equipment for all kinds of service and construction projects. To borrow tools for a project, a non-profit group, such as a church or a Scout unit, must register online as a member. A Scout unit would provide a copy its current charter and provide contact information for adult leaders, such as, Chartered Organization Representative, Unit Committee Chair, Cubmaster, Scoutmaster, or Crew Advisor. When the membership application is approved for the Scout group, the group would be eligible to borrow tools. The ToolBank does not lend tools to individuals and tools cannot be used for personal use. Costs per week for tools range from $0.11 for a paint tray to $0.45 for a shovel to $56.97 for a generator. If you need tools, check out the Charlotte Community ToolBank at


NEW Museum of the Waxhaws

Smoke Signals recently visited Museum of the Waxhaws and discovered that it is a great place to take your units and families for a day trip. Located in Union County, just a short drive from Apache District, the museum and surrounding grounds contains a wonderful history of the Region and a memorial to Andrew Jackson.


Some Major Upcoming events include:

August 20th and September 17 Living History Days

August 27th The Great Pirate Invasion and War of 1812 (10-4)

President Jackson. Come join the fight! Pirates, mermaids, cannons, sword fights, and even President Jackson.

October 22nd Haunted Legends

November 19th Lincoln and the Gettysburg Address. President Lincoln, and other notables will be speaking. There will also be reenactors, displays, and much more.


Gold and gem panning every Saturday 10-4:30 and Sunday 2-4:30 until it gets too cold.


Open Thursday, Friday, Saturday 10-5 and Sunday 2-5. There is a small admission fee. Taking a group? Be sure to complete the online field trip form. For further details call (704) 843-1832 or visit their website.


Old Editions of Smoke Signals
Looking for from past editions of Smoke Signals? They are posted on the Apache District website on the
Smoke Signals Archives page.




NEW Training 2016


Aug. 19 -20                 Wilderness First Aid – 16 hr. course

                                    Belk Scout camp- Fri. 6 -10pm / Sat. 7:30am -7:30pm

                                    $145.00 Once registered fee is non-refundable

                                    Course is required for all high adventure trips.

Sept. 16 -18                Legacy -Venturing crews

                                    Camp Grimes

Sept. 17                       BALOO – Belk Scout camp

Sept. 24                       Scouter Success CPCC Levine

                                    Training for all Scouting positions details forthcoming

Sept. 24                       Wilderness First Aid Refresher Course

Nov. 12 -13                 Outdoor Leadership Skills

Nov. 11 -13                 SEALS Belk Scout Camp


For more information, or to register for these courses look on

If you have any questions, please contact Joanne White


2017 Jamboree
Experience the best of Scouting in one place. From stadium shows to merit badges, patch trading to adventure sports, you’ll want to be at the Summit Bechtel Reserve in 2017. Our council has been awarded 4 Troops and 2 Venturing Patrols for the 2017 National Scout Jamboree to be held at the Bechtel Summit Scout Reserve in West Virginia July 19-28, 2017. For more information and to register, go and click on the Jamboree Banner.




NEW Help Wanted-Unit Commissioners Needed. Apache District has a great team of Unit Commissioners, but we need more volunteers to adequately serve all of our Packs, Troops, and Units. Unit Commissioners are important resources for our units. Unit Commissioners help Units succeed. They provide units with meaningful service that delivers Scouting ideals to youth, brings about membership growth, and ensures on-time charter renewal. For further details, please contact District Commissioner Bob Howell at (704) 779-3861, or

NEW District Commissioner Section of the Apache District Website

Do you know who your Unit Commissioner is? What do they do?

Did you know the Apache District website has a section lots of good information for Unit Commissioners and Unit Leaders. Please visit it at Apache District Commissioner Section





NEW Merit Badge Courses
For information on registration and pre-course homework on all courses, see

Discovery Place Merit Badge Workshops 2016

See for more info. 

Saturday, August 27               10:15 a.m. to 1:15 p.m Energy

Saturday, August 27               1:45 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.              Engineering

Sunday, August 28                 12:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m Chess


Saturday, September 24         10:15 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.            Robotics

Sunday, September 25           12:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m.            Space Exploration

Sunday, September 25           4:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.              Cyber Chip


Saturday, November 5            10:15 a.m. to 1:15 p.m.            Weather

Saturday, November 5            10:15 a.m. to 1:15 p.m.            Digital Technology

Saturday, November 5            1:45 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.              Programming

Sunday, November 6              12:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m.            Model Design and Building


Saturday, December 3            10:15 a.m. to 1:15 p.m.            Electricity

Saturday, December 3            1:45 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.              Chemistry

Sunday, December 4              12:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m.            Electronics


Nature Museum Merit Badge Workshops 2016


Saturday, August 6                 10:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.            Environmental Science

Saturday, September 24         10:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.            Environmental Science

Saturday, November 5            10:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.            Geocaching

Saturday, December 3            12:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.            Environmental Science



Discovery Place Wolf, Bear, and Webelos Adventure Schedule-Your-Own Courses in 2016


Wolf: Air of the Wolf, Digging in the Past       

Bear: Forensics, Robotics, Super Science, Make It Move

Webelos: Earth Rocks, Adventures in Science


NEW Exactly when does a young man become an Eagle Scout?
You’ll find a number of answers if you ask fellow Scouters. It’s after he passes his board of review, some say. Others are sure it’s when the council receives his Eagle Scout Rank Application (No. 512-728). A few claim it’s official when the Scout has his Eagle Scout court of honor.

The correct answer? It’s complicated.

The answer

An Eagle candidate is not officially an Eagle Scout until his application has been validated by the national office.

Once the application is approved, he is an Eagle Scout, and his Eagle Scout “earn date” is the date he passed his board of review.

BSA expert Mike Lo Vecchio has more:

Topic in the Guide to Advancement explains the method by which an Eagle candidate is validated.

We further state in topic, No. 11, that the Eagle Scout medal or patch (typically known as the presentation kit) “must not be sold or otherwise provided to any unit or to the Scout, nor should the court of honor be scheduled until after the certificate is received at the council service center from the National Advancement Team.”

To oversimplify things:

  • The application begins with the unit leader and committee chairperson.
  • Then it’s sent to the local council where it’s verified and a board of review is scheduled.
  • After the board of review is passed, the application goes back to the local council for the Scout executive’s signature. (This has to be one of the coolest parts of a Scout executive’s job!)
  • The Scout executive signs the application and then enters it into the BSA system to send to the National Advancement Team.
  • The National Advancement Team validates everything. It’s at this point a young man officially becomes and Eagle Scout.
  • The National Distribution Center (Supply Group) generates the credentials and prints, packages and mails the certificate, pocket card and congratulatory letter to the council.
  • Upon receipt of the Eagle credentials, local council personnel alert unit leadership as soon as possible.

A final thought

The BSA’s Eagle Scout database uses the Scout’s board of review date — not his application validation date — as the date he earned Eagle. That’s true of every Eagle Scout since 1912.

The application validation process can vary from Eagle Scout to Eagle Scout, so the board of review date is most appropriate in the long term.

This fact could be what sparked the rumor that a young man becomes an Eagle on his board of review date. While that date is important in the long term, in the short term a young man has to wait a bit longer before he’s officially eligible to wear that red, white and blue patch and medal or schedule his court of honor.

To paraphrase a commenter from below: When a young man passes his Eagle Scout board of review, he isn’t officially an Eagle Scout until his application is approved. Once it’s approved, he’s an Eagle Scout from the day he passed.

Posted on November 9, 2015 by Bryan Wendell




Apache Events
Apache Cuboree - 10/07-09/2016
Apache Webeloree-Camporee - 10/21-23/2016

Adult Leader Roundtables
Check our Council website for more details. We need your help with providing an excellent program this year. If you or someone you know can help with Roundtable or have an agenda item, please let Angie White know, her email address is


Apache Web Site Helps:

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Summer Break is Over!

Though there was no chapter meeting in July, there is one for August. Our August chapter meeting will be on the 11th, at South Mecklenburg Presbyterian Church. Please plan to attend.



All speeches from new officers (those planning to run at Fall Fellowship) are to be turned in to Mr. Nedrich BEFORE the August chapter meeting. If you are unable to attend, please contact Mr. Nedrich, Eliot McGinnis or myself.


New Hoodie Designs Needed

Apache Chapter is planning to design new hooded sweatshirts for sale. Please come to the August chapter meeting with Ideas/sketches if you would like to aid in the design.

Teepee Painting


The Apache Chapter Teepee is in the process of being painted with Apache colors. If you would like to help with the effort, contact Eliot McGinnis.


Fall Fellowship

Fall Fellowship will be September 30th through October 2nd. If you would like to run for a Lodge position, consult the following table for who to contact-


Lodge Chief: Nick Zanzot,

Vice Chief of Program: Zach Unferth,

Vice Chief of Inductions: Evan Williams,

Vice Chief of Indian Affairs: Christian Hammond,

Vice Chief of Administration: Jameson Coughlin,

Quartermaster: Sam Unferth,


If you would like to run for a chapter position (secretary, quartermaster, vice chief, chief) please contact Eliot McGinnis.


Calling All New Arrowmen!

There will be a New Arrowman Dinner for all recently introduced brothers on the Friday of Fall Fellowship. This event will be free for all new Arrowmen, and those  Arrowmen that attend may bring one guest. The cost for each additional guest will be $5.  There will be a Chapter meeting after the dinner that Arrowmen will be welcome to attend. 


August Ordeal Upcoming

August ordeal will be on the weekend of August 27th. This is an excellent final opportunity to go through your ordeal before Fall Fellowship.


Yours in Scouting,

Dave Kubala  - Chapter Secretary


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